Comments on: Audio Engineering School is a Waste of Time and Money http://wizkidsound.com/blog/2009/09/audio-engineering-school-is-a-waste-of-time-and-money/ Modern Recording Studio in Atlanta, GA Thu, 22 Jul 2010 06:29:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: pimpfresh http://wizkidsound.com/blog/2009/09/audio-engineering-school-is-a-waste-of-time-and-money/comment-page-1/#comment-2137 pimpfresh Mon, 21 Jun 2010 03:37:48 +0000 http://wizkidsound.com/blog/?p=324#comment-2137 Thanks for the kudos! It's good to hear people that have been through it being objective about their situation. Obviously anyone with talent and drive is going to succeed regardless. I checked out your stuff and it's awesome! Make sure to let us know if you're ever in ATL! Thanks for the kudos! It's good to hear people that have been through it being objective about their situation. Obviously anyone with talent and drive is going to succeed regardless. I checked out your stuff and it's awesome! Make sure to let us know if you're ever in ATL!

]]> By: JUKETASTRAFE http://wizkidsound.com/blog/2009/09/audio-engineering-school-is-a-waste-of-time-and-money/comment-page-1/#comment-2136 JUKETASTRAFE Fri, 11 Jun 2010 07:27:04 +0000 http://wizkidsound.com/blog/?p=324#comment-2136 i Luv this post... i am 20 years old and i am breaking my fucking neck and almost saling my soul for money to pay for a tuiton at columbia college or flashpoint academy chicago $50,000 fucking dollars. i have been into engineering my own music sense age 15 i am into urban House, Electro Euro House And Now Im a Hardstyle Addict, particulary Living in Chicago I'm known for My Ghetto House Creations I Have a couple of ep/lps on itunes, rhapsody, amazon <a href="http://music.com" rel="nofollow">music.com</a> yahoo etc (Search:Juke It Hard Vol.) Now many people and fellow muscians i know in my particular desired field of music all say i have high potential to be a great producer and recording engineer and i know much for my age for not ever attending any schooling yet. but the majority of them still say i still should go to school to get a little more knowledge and to get a certification certificate or degree just so i can have it on my back ground. But although i havn't attended any engineering schooling yet it feels as though if i finally do, it would be a waste of time now that i have been researching former students and people who have attended school and have completed. and the majority of them say the same thing majority you can learn your self for the amount of money and it is about hands on experience. I mean i have been around some pretty locally known big name House producers and house djs from the likes of Ghetto House Creator Dj Deeon, Dj Funk, Dj Slugo, Terry Hunter, Traxster, and many more i mean local chicago wize. And I know for a fact they havnt attended any prior schooling and they are doing fairly well and are saling out internationaly and are constantly touring and doing shows out of the country witch is my Dream to go to Europe, and they all have pretty decent studios minus the pro tools $100,000 Hd Set Up.But Being Around Them I have learned Alot now that i think about it. But for me until i get the $50,000 for Engineering school i will be attending realworld hands on training and you tube school<br>witch in fact has brought me this far oh and P.S TO THE GUY WHO POSTED THIS BLOG THANK YOU AND MUCH RESPECT I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE FEELING THIS WAY AND FOR ANY ONE WHO NEEDS TO KNOW I AM JUKETASTRAFE ALSO KNOW AS DJ PIERRE CHICAGO AKA MR WHATZ JUKING!! GOOGLE SEARCH: JUKE IT HARD VOL. FACEBOOK ME.MYSPACE ETC I LUV MEETING NEW PEOPLE IN MY PARTICULAR FIELD <br>AND ALSO HOW BIZZAR IS THIS: I AM A 20 YEAR OLD URBAN "BLACK AMERICAN HARD HOUSE/HARD STYLE/ELECTRO FINATIC RESIDING ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF CHICAGO ILLINOIS ENGLEWOOD AREA!!! MUSIC IS COLOR BLIND AND IN MUSIC RACE DOESNT MATTER!!! AND IS THE ONLY THING THAT IS KEEPONG THIS COUNTRY UNITED AND TOGETHER MUSIC IS GOD!! i Luv this post… i am 20 years old and i am breaking my fucking neck and almost saling my soul for money to pay for a tuiton at columbia college or flashpoint academy chicago $50,000 fucking dollars. i have been into engineering my own music sense age 15 i am into urban House, Electro Euro House And Now Im a Hardstyle Addict, particulary Living in Chicago I'm known for My Ghetto House Creations I Have a couple of ep/lps on itunes, rhapsody, amazon music.com yahoo etc (Search:Juke It Hard Vol.) Now many people and fellow muscians i know in my particular desired field of music all say i have high potential to be a great producer and recording engineer and i know much for my age for not ever attending any schooling yet. but the majority of them still say i still should go to school to get a little more knowledge and to get a certification certificate or degree just so i can have it on my back ground. But although i havn't attended any engineering schooling yet it feels as though if i finally do, it would be a waste of time now that i have been researching former students and people who have attended school and have completed. and the majority of them say the same thing majority you can learn your self for the amount of money and it is about hands on experience. I mean i have been around some pretty locally known big name House producers and house djs from the likes of Ghetto House Creator Dj Deeon, Dj Funk, Dj Slugo, Terry Hunter, Traxster, and many more i mean local chicago wize. And I know for a fact they havnt attended any prior schooling and they are doing fairly well and are saling out internationaly and are constantly touring and doing shows out of the country witch is my Dream to go to Europe, and they all have pretty decent studios minus the pro tools $100,000 Hd Set Up.But Being Around Them I have learned Alot now that i think about it. But for me until i get the $50,000 for Engineering school i will be attending realworld hands on training and you tube school
witch in fact has brought me this far oh and P.S TO THE GUY WHO POSTED THIS BLOG THANK YOU AND MUCH RESPECT I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE FEELING THIS WAY AND FOR ANY ONE WHO NEEDS TO KNOW I AM JUKETASTRAFE ALSO KNOW AS DJ PIERRE CHICAGO AKA MR WHATZ JUKING!! GOOGLE SEARCH: JUKE IT HARD VOL. FACEBOOK ME.MYSPACE ETC I LUV MEETING NEW PEOPLE IN MY PARTICULAR FIELD
AND ALSO HOW BIZZAR IS THIS: I AM A 20 YEAR OLD URBAN “BLACK AMERICAN HARD HOUSE/HARD STYLE/ELECTRO FINATIC RESIDING ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF CHICAGO ILLINOIS ENGLEWOOD AREA!!! MUSIC IS COLOR BLIND AND IN MUSIC RACE DOESNT MATTER!!! AND IS THE ONLY THING THAT IS KEEPONG THIS COUNTRY UNITED AND TOGETHER MUSIC IS GOD!!

]]> By: pimpfresh http://wizkidsound.com/blog/2009/09/audio-engineering-school-is-a-waste-of-time-and-money/comment-page-1/#comment-2127 pimpfresh Fri, 09 Apr 2010 20:50:04 +0000 http://wizkidsound.com/blog/?p=324#comment-2127 Really dude? Really? You write like a 13-year-old girl on MySpace. Apparently they don't have any entry level English classes at SAE. I almost feel like you have a point in here somewhere but as in most professions, nobody is going to take you seriously when you sound like a washed-up rapper using Instant Messenger. <br><br>And for all your cockiness I'd just like to point out something that you readily admit: You're still an intern. Sure you may get to sit in the lobby of a major commercial studio all night and go make food runs for "big time engineers," but you're still an intern. While I definitely recommend an internship for people wanting to get started in the professional recording business, you don't need to spend $150,000 to get one, even at a major studio. <br><br>$150,000 isn't going to get you on a split sheet either. If you ever get to put your name on one I hope for your sake that you can figure out how to do basic math and spell your name correctly. Your response indicates that might be a problem. Fortunately as of now that's not a problem because interns don't get on split sheets....songwriters and producers do. I hope you know something about music. Really dude? Really? You write like a 13-year-old girl on MySpace. Apparently they don't have any entry level English classes at SAE. I almost feel like you have a point in here somewhere but as in most professions, nobody is going to take you seriously when you sound like a washed-up rapper using Instant Messenger.

And for all your cockiness I'd just like to point out something that you readily admit: You're still an intern. Sure you may get to sit in the lobby of a major commercial studio all night and go make food runs for “big time engineers,” but you're still an intern. While I definitely recommend an internship for people wanting to get started in the professional recording business, you don't need to spend $150,000 to get one, even at a major studio.

$150,000 isn't going to get you on a split sheet either. If you ever get to put your name on one I hope for your sake that you can figure out how to do basic math and spell your name correctly. Your response indicates that might be a problem. Fortunately as of now that's not a problem because interns don't get on split sheets….songwriters and producers do. I hope you know something about music.

]]> By: MR. SELFMADE http://wizkidsound.com/blog/2009/09/audio-engineering-school-is-a-waste-of-time-and-money/comment-page-1/#comment-2126 MR. SELFMADE Fri, 09 Apr 2010 02:57:25 +0000 http://wizkidsound.com/blog/?p=324#comment-2126 U sound like a straight Hater!!LOL!! tryin to make u cats that will always remain amateurs feel better!! LOL yeah audio engineering school is a waste of time if you bullshitting yaself anyway and don't have any TALENT in the first place! The only thing i agree with in this blog is real experience is necessary to start making real money in the music industry. If your trying to teach your self by buying PRO TOOLS FOR DUMMIES and MAC PRO VIDEO tutorials by the time u get a good quality sound you'll be to old to reap any benefit and probably spent the same amount of money as a graduate from a school!LOL I'm an SAE graduate!! now who has the advantage interning in a commercial studio with the big time engineers a person that has education and KNOWs the engineer lingo or a person that just bought and m-box and only knows how to open a session and press the record button..everytime one of u "I just bought an M-box jokers" show up to my studio they always asking the GRADUATE to teach them? Y's that? so if by the grace of GOD they do get to get in with a Big engineer they can at least not look like a total idiot! thats like saying I can go out and buy a stethoscope,white jacket and a perscription pad and boom! I'M A DOCTOR!! it's that simple!! Please! Its all about your hustle and what u put into it! in anything u do! The whole point is you have to LEARN!! going to a school just gets u proper education fast and more efficient than being self-taught! Not to mention the network opportunities that come around that u wouldn't have sitting at home by yaself!! And while i'm trusted by true songwriters,producers, and industry execs with upcoming major projects. The only people that'll trust what your sayin is local bands with no money to pay professionals anyway!! You'll be lucky to ever see a split sheet!! ROFLMAO U sound like a straight Hater!!LOL!! tryin to make u cats that will always remain amateurs feel better!! LOL yeah audio engineering school is a waste of time if you bullshitting yaself anyway and don't have any TALENT in the first place! The only thing i agree with in this blog is real experience is necessary to start making real money in the music industry. If your trying to teach your self by buying PRO TOOLS FOR DUMMIES and MAC PRO VIDEO tutorials by the time u get a good quality sound you'll be to old to reap any benefit and probably spent the same amount of money as a graduate from a school!LOL I'm an SAE graduate!! now who has the advantage interning in a commercial studio with the big time engineers a person that has education and KNOWs the engineer lingo or a person that just bought and m-box and only knows how to open a session and press the record button..everytime one of u “I just bought an M-box jokers” show up to my studio they always asking the GRADUATE to teach them? Y's that? so if by the grace of GOD they do get to get in with a Big engineer they can at least not look like a total idiot! thats like saying I can go out and buy a stethoscope,white jacket and a perscription pad and boom! I'M A DOCTOR!! it's that simple!! Please! Its all about your hustle and what u put into it! in anything u do! The whole point is you have to LEARN!! going to a school just gets u proper education fast and more efficient than being self-taught! Not to mention the network opportunities that come around that u wouldn't have sitting at home by yaself!! And while i'm trusted by true songwriters,producers, and industry execs with upcoming major projects. The only people that'll trust what your sayin is local bands with no money to pay professionals anyway!! You'll be lucky to ever see a split sheet!! ROFLMAO

]]> By: toshcantel http://wizkidsound.com/blog/2009/09/audio-engineering-school-is-a-waste-of-time-and-money/comment-page-1/#comment-2125 toshcantel Fri, 09 Apr 2010 00:05:27 +0000 http://wizkidsound.com/blog/?p=324#comment-2125 I Love this Blog, so so true!! I Love this Blog, so so true!!

]]> By: A Glimpse Into Music School of U.s http://wizkidsound.com/blog/2009/09/audio-engineering-school-is-a-waste-of-time-and-money/comment-page-1/#comment-2069 A Glimpse Into Music School of U.s Tue, 08 Dec 2009 18:37:47 +0000 http://wizkidsound.com/blog/?p=324#comment-2069 [...] Audio Engineering School is a Waste of Time and Money [...] [...] Audio Engineering School is a Waste of Time and Money [...]

]]> By: INtRiCaTe DeZigHn PrOdUcTiOnZ http://wizkidsound.com/blog/2009/09/audio-engineering-school-is-a-waste-of-time-and-money/comment-page-1/#comment-2098 INtRiCaTe DeZigHn PrOdUcTiOnZ Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:36:24 +0000 http://wizkidsound.com/blog/?p=324#comment-2098 Yo!!! man i totally agree with your blog!!!!!!!!! It takes more then just saying you want to produce "'phat" beats and "phat" tracks practice makes perfect. I think that schools can point you in the right direction but people do need to understand that the game has changed. Any engineer can go to the library and get a book that will teach you the same the school is!!!. Yo!!! man i totally agree with your blog!!!!!!!!! It takes more then just saying you want to produce “'phat” beats and “phat” tracks practice makes perfect. I think that schools can point you in the right direction but people do need to understand that the game has changed. Any engineer can go to the library and get a book that will teach you the same the school is!!!.

]]> By: INtRiCaTe DeZigHn PrOdUcTiOnZ http://wizkidsound.com/blog/2009/09/audio-engineering-school-is-a-waste-of-time-and-money/comment-page-1/#comment-2047 INtRiCaTe DeZigHn PrOdUcTiOnZ Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:36:24 +0000 http://wizkidsound.com/blog/?p=324#comment-2047 Yo!!! man i totally agree with your blog!!!!!!!!! It takes more then just saying you want to produce "'phat" beats and "phat" tracks practice makes perfect. I think that schools can point you in the right direction but people do need to understand that the game has changed. Any engineer can go to the library and get a book that will teach you the same the school is!!!. Yo!!! man i totally agree with your blog!!!!!!!!! It takes more then just saying you want to produce “'phat” beats and “phat” tracks practice makes perfect. I think that schools can point you in the right direction but people do need to understand that the game has changed. Any engineer can go to the library and get a book that will teach you the same the school is!!!.

]]> By: pimpfresh http://wizkidsound.com/blog/2009/09/audio-engineering-school-is-a-waste-of-time-and-money/comment-page-1/#comment-2034 pimpfresh Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:44:55 +0000 http://wizkidsound.com/blog/?p=324#comment-2034 Sahil, thanks for sharing your experience on here. I'm not sure what kind of opportunities exist for audio engineer interns in Chennai, but searching out places in need of help would probably be a good place to start. Even if you have to work for free and have crappy hours you will still actually get experience applying what you are learning in school. You can make your education worthwhile if you are able to work to put it into action at the same time rather than just talking about it. This may require you to stay up long hours and limit your social life, but that is the reality of a successful audio engineer. You really have to have a passion for what you do. Sahil, thanks for sharing your experience on here. I'm not sure what kind of opportunities exist for audio engineer interns in Chennai, but searching out places in need of help would probably be a good place to start. Even if you have to work for free and have crappy hours you will still actually get experience applying what you are learning in school. You can make your education worthwhile if you are able to work to put it into action at the same time rather than just talking about it. This may require you to stay up long hours and limit your social life, but that is the reality of a successful audio engineer. You really have to have a passion for what you do.

]]> By: SAHIL NIRMAN http://wizkidsound.com/blog/2009/09/audio-engineering-school-is-a-waste-of-time-and-money/comment-page-1/#comment-2032 SAHIL NIRMAN Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:23:12 +0000 http://wizkidsound.com/blog/?p=324#comment-2032 Hi.aiam sahil nirman from india....its was awesome reading your blog as most of the people dont know shit about this line.specialy in my country.....Iam doing diploma in audio engineering from SAE chennai which is the headquaters in india.Next yr iam suppose to go to SAE oxford.........but somewhere i dont dont find it worth the anount iam spending and the time iam spending as the system in SAE is all theory based.Iam facing the same probel what u mentioned that here there is no praticle experience....I'll be glad if you suggest me something....aim not a graduate.i was a law student but i left law for audio engineering as i want to do something in music industry....but iam jus too confused after seeing the system on which these school works...i need a degree for which i dont mind going to a audio engineering school.but i dont know which i should opt for........ Hi.aiam sahil nirman from india….its was awesome reading your blog as most of the people dont know shit about this line.specialy in my country…..Iam doing diploma in audio engineering from SAE chennai which is the headquaters in india.Next yr iam suppose to go to SAE oxford………but somewhere i dont dont find it worth the anount iam spending and the time iam spending as the system in SAE is all theory based.Iam facing the same probel what u mentioned that here there is no praticle experience….I'll be glad if you suggest me something….aim not a graduate.i was a law student but i left law for audio engineering as i want to do something in music industry….but iam jus too confused after seeing the system on which these school works…i need a degree for which i dont mind going to a audio engineering school.but i dont know which i should opt for……..

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